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What works and what doesn't for me in SEO — a five-year breakdown

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#1

I've been doing SEO consulting for five years. Instead of fancy talk, I'll leave two lists: what works for me and what doesn't. Each point is based on my observations from my own client portfolio, not universal laws.

WHAT WORKS

One. A page that fully answers a single question. A page that finishes one topic, rather than skimming five. This has been the most consistent result-getter.

Two. Updating existing pages. It delivers results faster and cheaper than opening new pages. Content stuck on the second page can jump to the first when updated.

Three. Page speed — but only if you're slow. If you're already fast, speeding up further changes nothing. It's a threshold issue, not linear.

Four. Internal links. The cheapest and most neglected task. Linking from your strong page to your weak page meaningfully is an edit with zero cost.

Five. Content written with real expertise. Texts where the author is known, shares experience, and gives concrete details. The differentiator isn't length, but details no one can copy.

WHAT DOESN'T WORK

One. Keyword density. Sprinkling the same word throughout the text. This was questionable even ten years ago, now it's a complete waste of time.

Two. Bought links. You might see movement in the short term, but in the long term, it's risk and money loss. Recovering is much more expensive than never doing it.

Three. A target of X blog posts per month. Volume targets push you to fill content. Five good pages do more work than fifty mediocre ones.

Four. Doing exactly what the competitor does. The competitor's ranking might come from their ten-year history, not their content. When you copy, you're only copying the visible part.

Five. Guaranteed ranking promises. I can't offer them either, and don't believe anyone who does.

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Most Helpful#2

I'd like to add three items from the technical side, all measurable and skipped on most sites.

First, crawlability. Can search engine bots reach every page on your site? Filtered listing pages, pagination, and session parameters generate thousands of unnecessary URLs, and crawl budget (the resource the bot allocates to your site) is spent there. Your important pages are waiting in line.

Second, duplicate content. The same content opening from multiple addresses is very common: with and without www, with and without trailing slashes, with and without parameters. If you don't specify which is canonical using a canonical tag, your site is competing with itself.

Third, server-side rendering. If page content is formed only by code running in the browser, the bot sometimes sees a blank page. Testing is easy: open the page source and search for your text. If you can't find it, there's a problem.

I also agree with Ayşe Hanım's observation about the "threshold issue." Speed is a ranking factor, but its main impact is seen in conversion: a slow page loses visitors before they read the content.

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Doki · Mobile app · 2025

#3

I want to ask a question, not attacking, just genuinely curious: when you say "updated pages move to the first page," what control group did you use?

The reason is this: seasonality, algorithm updates, and competitor movements are effective in the same period. If the pages you updated rose while the pages you didn't update also rose, the effect might not be coming from the update.

A method that works for me: split the pages needing updates into two groups, update only one, wait eight weeks, then compare the two. It's a slow method, but it's the only way to answer the question "did this actually work?"

Otherwise, we're all doing the same thing: we make a change, then attribute the rise to that change.

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#4

Fair objection, let me explain.

I applied this method to twelve sites in my portfolio, and in eight of them, the updated group performed better than the non-updated group. In four, the difference wasn't significant.

But you're right: this is an observation, not an experiment. The sites are in different sectors, the groups weren't randomly selected, and I couldn't filter out external factors. That's why I said "what works for me" in the post, not "proven."

That's actually our industry's biggest problem: nobody sets up a control group, everyone speaks with absolute certainty.

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#5

I'd like to expand on the content point about "a page that fully answers a single question," because that's where people get stuck the most in practice.

Let me walk you through how to do it step by step.

First, write down the question the page answers in a single sentence. If you can't, the page isn't ready yet, meaning the topic is too broad.

Then, list what the person asking that question is actually curious about. Someone searching "what is a penetration test" might want a definition, but most of the time they also want to know "do we need it, how much does it cost, what's the outcome." Make these sub-questions into headings.

Put the answer at the very beginning. Dragging out the topic in the intro paragraph just means expanding the part nobody reads.

Finally, be specific. The sentence "prices vary" tells you nothing. Write what they vary based on: scope, duration, test type. Even if you can't give a number, you can write the factors that determine the number.

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#6

I have an objection from the growth side, regarding the fourth item on the "things that don't work" list.

Competitor analysis isn't useless; it fails when done wrong. I agree that copying what a competitor wrote is pointless. But figuring out which questions they answer and which they don't is very valuable.

I ask this: the competitor ranks first, but what is missing from their page? The gap is there. It's not about copying, it's about filling the gap.

When measuring this, look at the searched question, not the ranking. Ranking is the result, the question is the input.

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#7

I work with small businesses, so let me add a note on their behalf because some items on this list are too heavy for them.

For a local shop owner, the highest ROI task isn't writing blog posts. In order, here they are:

Having a complete map listing: correct address, correct business hours, phone number, real photos. This alone brings more business than everything else for most small businesses.

Responding to customer reviews. To all of them, even the bad ones. Keep it short and polite.

Clearly stating the neighborhoods and services you serve on your site. Instead of a single "our services" page, have a separate page for each service.

Having clickable contact info on every page. There are still sites where the phone number is placed as an image.

A shop owner who starts blogging without doing these has missed the right order. If anyone wants, I can explain them one by one, feel free to ask.

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#8

Guys, I run a pastry shop, and when I read what Nazlı wrote, I immediately checked my map listing and found out my business hours were wrong, and they had been for months.

it looked closed on sundays but we're actually open, sundays are actually our busiest day. fixed it now, thanks a lot really.

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Doki · Server maintenance contract · 2026

#9

i run a used bookstore, my tech knowledge is limited but i wanted to contribute.

i thought people would search for "old books" for two years. turns out they were searching for the book titles. i know it's not surprising info, but it took me two years to figure it out.

things changed when i created a separate page for every book in stock. monthly visits quadrupled and sales went up too. so what Ayşe Hanım called "a page answering one question" turned out to be "a page for a single book" for me.

also, when i added a photo of the shop window, people started coming in saying "i've seen this place before." don't know which point this falls under but it worked.

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#10

Thanks, this was very helpful. Processes without records never improve because you don't know what to fix.

When we decide without measuring, we always end up in the same place.

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#11

If you're going this route, sort this out first. If rankings stay the same but clicks drop, the issue isn't your page, but the search result appearance.

I'm also curious if anyone does it differently.

HHakan S***ExpertCommunity member
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#12

I'll argue the opposite, don't get mad. Merge instead of deleting; deleted content doesn't come back.

I'm also curious if anyone does it differently.

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#13

I went through the same thing two years ago. Start with a small trial; don't commit to everything at once.

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#14

Saved.

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#15

Exactly like that. Discussing numbers without verifying the measurement setup is a waste of time.

Updating an existing page yields faster results than creating a new one. If I were you, I'd go this route.

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#16

I've been down this road, let me tell you. Hasty decisions become decisions you have to fix six months later.

Good luck with that.

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#17

My question might sound amateurish, sorry about that. Any unwritten clause becomes a point of disagreement later, as both sides remember it differently.

This is my opinion, I'm not claiming it's absolute truth.

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A quick correction: "secure" here isn't absolute; it just means raising the cost. The goal isn't to make attacks impossible, but to make them not worth the effort.

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#19

We experienced almost the exact same thing last year. People defend habits, not processes. Resistance comes from there.

If you post the result here, it will help others too.

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#20

I'm writing this so you don't make the same mistake. Solutions that work at a small scale collapse when you grow; I learned this late.

When you try to change everything at once, nothing settles. Hope this helps.

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